Anders Andersen

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  Meanwhile over at exjw reddit

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it has no value at all.

  it consists of 99% dumb, confused kids asking stupid hypothetical questions.

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  Anders Andersen

  If people don`t like [the posts on politics] don`t read that section.

  I also just noted that our most prolific political poster on board doesn't seem to know the difference between 'friends' and 'politics & current affairs'.....
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  Meanwhile over at exjw reddit

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it has no value at all.

  it consists of 99% dumb, confused kids asking stupid hypothetical questions.

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  I don`t know why people get upset about the political discussions that go on here ,that`s one of the topics for discussion that Adults can have

  If only the adults could have some civilized and rational conversations on politics I wouldn't mind at all.

  and its a separate subject of its own?

  Unless you check the forum by 'latest' activity to keep up.

  It would be great if it were possible to 'hide' certain forum sections from view. I would definitely use that.
  
  
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  California passes bill lessening penalty for pedophiles having sex with willing kids.

  by mickbobcat in

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  i was wondering about this.

  if california or other far left groups in charge would push for making pedophiles quote normal unquote.

  so it passed but has yet to be signed by newsom.

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  Take the victims age, subtract 10, double it and add 11. Anyone that age or older is prosecuted. Add 13 instead ... anyone that age or older is a registered sex offender. Add 15 instead ... anyone that age or older is executed.

  Well, apart from the death penalty part I think this is an interesting approach.
  And right away it also becomes clear how hard it is to fix a reasonable, coherent and consistent approach in words.

  For example, in your approach a 17 year old isn't considered mature enough to consent to sex with a 25 year old, and at the same time the death penalty is considered a proper punishment for other (or maybe even the very same!) 17 year olds.
  
  I accept that your proposal is just a quick (yet interesting!) example. I'm also not pinning you down on it. Just pointing out how hard it is to put reasonableness into rules.

  And in the end I guess we all want the same: protect the vulnerable from abuse, and yet not victimize those who who aren't abusers. It's jsut that we need to find ways to agree on how to do that.
  
  
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  Meanwhile over at exjw reddit

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it has no value at all.

  it consists of 99% dumb, confused kids asking stupid hypothetical questions.

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  But as far as them being ‘free from polarizing politics’, you’re wrong.

  I didn't say the exjw Reddit is free of that. It's just that half the posts here seem to be about politics and quite polarizing, and on Reddit most post have to do with something JW. The mix of topics is quite different between here and there.

  As far as ‘dishonest’ topics on politics 🙄: it depends on your viewpoint!

  I'm not talking about whether or not I agree with someone's viewpoint or not. I prefer exposing myself to different points of view, so I can learn. Polite conversation can be enlightening, even if parties don't agree on what the facts are.
  But having lived through Watchtower lies, quotes out of context or without any source reference, I have learned to spot the overly wild claims based on soundbites ripped out of context, or wild speculation based on rumor to incite excitement for a cause. And it seems to me those seem to pop up around quite often....
  
  
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  Meanwhile over at exjw reddit

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it has no value at all.

  it consists of 99% dumb, confused kids asking stupid hypothetical questions.

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  Anders Andersen

  Tbh I prefer the exjw Reddit over this forum, mainly because of the many polarizing (and imho often unreasonable or even dishonest) topics on politics around here.

  I find it easier to ignore a teenagers' dumb but somewhat funny memes than to ignore adults ranting about how 'the evil others' of whatever side are going to destroy the USA....

  The exjw reddit serves a lot of struggling people, especially the younger crowd. I think in terms of number of people finding support the exjw Reddit today helps more people than this forum (not that it's a contest).

  And I can also see how the memes might be annoying enough to not like exjw reddit :-)
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  California passes bill lessening penalty for pedophiles having sex with willing kids.

  by mickbobcat in

  1. social
  2. current

  i was wondering about this.

  if california or other far left groups in charge would push for making pedophiles quote normal unquote.

  so it passed but has yet to be signed by newsom.

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  Exactly. It's a trick to make creeping legislation easier

  If anyone wanted, they could have simply changed the definition of 'minor' without first changing this bill. The change that was now passed has absolutely no effect on a 'possible' (lol) change of the definition of 'minor'.

  Because a threshold for the age limit could easily have been added. The fact that it wasn't is deliberate.

  Of course it was. It is much more efficient for both reading and maintaining laws and bills when common terms are defined in one place, instead of in every single bill (or sentence) where the term is used.

  you retreat to convenient example of a 17 + 18 year old couple which no one that I'm aware of has any real concern over

  How would you propose to write a bill that mirrors the situation of a 17+18 year old couple that 'nobody has any real concern over', and still is strict enough for your liking?
  
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  Alright Mr. Bond!--There Are Documents to Deliver!--(as of 2020-09-03)

  by Atlantis in

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  well mr. bond!.

  i see your staying..... .

  on top of things!.

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  Anders Andersen

  Thanks!
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  California passes bill lessening penalty for pedophiles having sex with willing kids.

  by mickbobcat in

  1. social
  2. current

  i was wondering about this.

  if california or other far left groups in charge would push for making pedophiles quote normal unquote.

  so it passed but has yet to be signed by newsom.

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  Anders Andersen

  @Earnest,

  Don't be so reasonable. Who needs the actual source if there is Breitbart?

  We just want unfounded claims to vilify 'the others'.

  /s
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  Dutch JW publish open letter protesting accusations of mishandling child abuse and government inquiry

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  today watchtower netherlands published an open letter in a national newspaper, lamenting the accusations about them not handling child abuse issues very well.. they protest a scientific report made by utrecht university (by request of the government).. they protest almost everything our minister of justice has said about them.. they place themselves in the role of victims of unfair treatment, discrimination.. they point their finger a other religions (foremost the catholic church) because they are much worse.. they refer to jw being persecuted in wwii, as if that were relevant to the issue at hand.. all in all, they (probably) spent about 25k to 30k euro to publish their bullshit in a national newspaper.. not a single trace of any self-awareness, let alone even a hint of an apology.

  quite the contrary.. they suck.. the minister of justice tweeted "this is exactly the problem: they spend money on lawsuits and expensive ads instead of improving help for victims #fail".. see the translation of the jw letter here: https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ilair1/open_dutch_letter_a_little_better_english.

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  @menrov,

  They published their one page paid ad/letter in the paper Telegraaf only. I couldn't find it on the Telegraaf website.

  Afaik only regional radio/tv stations RTV Drenthe and RTV Noord reported on the letter.

  So it appears the national news media aren't very much impressed by JW's tantrum.
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  Dutch JW publish open letter protesting accusations of mishandling child abuse and government inquiry

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  today watchtower netherlands published an open letter in a national newspaper, lamenting the accusations about them not handling child abuse issues very well.. they protest a scientific report made by utrecht university (by request of the government).. they protest almost everything our minister of justice has said about them.. they place themselves in the role of victims of unfair treatment, discrimination.. they point their finger a other religions (foremost the catholic church) because they are much worse.. they refer to jw being persecuted in wwii, as if that were relevant to the issue at hand.. all in all, they (probably) spent about 25k to 30k euro to publish their bullshit in a national newspaper.. not a single trace of any self-awareness, let alone even a hint of an apology.

  quite the contrary.. they suck.. the minister of justice tweeted "this is exactly the problem: they spend money on lawsuits and expensive ads instead of improving help for victims #fail".. see the translation of the jw letter here: https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ilair1/open_dutch_letter_a_little_better_english.

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  Anders Andersen

  Today Watchtower Netherlands published an open letter in a national newspaper, lamenting the accusations about them not handling child abuse issues very well.

  They protest a scientific report made by Utrecht University (by request of the government).

  They protest almost everything our Minister of Justice has said about them.

  They place themselves in the role of victims of unfair treatment, discrimination.

  They point their finger a other religions (foremost the Catholic Church) because they are much worse.

  They refer to JW being persecuted in WWII, as if that were relevant to the issue at hand.

  All in all, they (probably) spent about 25k to 30k Euro to publish their bullshit in a national newspaper.

  Not a single trace of any self-awareness, let alone even a hint of an apology. Quite the contrary.

  They suck.

  The Minister of Justice tweeted "this is exactly the problem: they spend money on lawsuits and expensive ads instead of improving help for victims #fail".

  See the translation of the JW letter here: https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ilair1/open_dutch_letter_a_little_better_english